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Agenda of
"Reform of the Reform"
tanks: no more Communion
under both kinds, Latin Mass with priest not facing people, no lay people
(except altar boys) on sanctuary, no altar girls, no special ministers,
Communion on tongue while kneeling down, no more deacons, more censorship,
more control by Rome, Vatican II teaching undermined
Sunday February
24
Remembering
the changes
after Vatican II
Darlene
Starrs
(Canada
Sunday blogger)
My point
is there appeared to be a forward momentum in the Church after Vatican II
and it seemed to move along fairly well, and now, it’s like we’ve hit
a brick wall?
(Congrats
Darlene on obtaining
Irish
Citizenship! -jw)
2005
insights into 2013 conclave
John
W
Cardinal George Pell to be the
candidate for carrying on the JPII-B16 legacy?
UK
Card: next pope should allow
priests to marry
A moving new book
which is helping prevent suicide:
Life,
In Spite of Me
Kristen Jane Anderson
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 24
Abraham
& the God of Heaven
Heaven:
the land of the living
Our
homeland is in Heaven
A
taste of Heaven
Please add a comment!
See comments
Feb
22
This
week's smile
Why US Jesuit should be pope!
The
world within is the real world
Joseph Girzone
It is such a joy to rediscover the dream that
Jesus had of what he had wanted so much for us, a world of humble
shepherds, showing us how to live and love and care for one another, not
ruling over us by decrees and endless laws and human customs that have
long ago lost their meaning, and wandering around in robes people
wore 700 years ago
2,600
year old Cyrus Cylinder
- see comment Feb 23, "JohnHu"
Grapevine:
On Feb
28 Pope will give cardinals some light reading matter for the
conclave: a personal copy of
this
300 page report
Vatican
II Reflection 09
Church teaching should be Biblical
John W - Blog - Feb 24
The Ultimate Reunion!
Monday February
25
US has 70 million Catholics &
13
cardinals
at conclave. Philippines
has 75 million Catholics & 1
at conclave.
Phil websites/blogs very unhappy:
e.g. Anura
Guruge
The 2005 conclave had 29
Italian cardinals, same as from Africa/Asia combined. Italy
had 55
million Catholics, A/A more than 200
million (America)
2013 conclave - same ratio:
61 are European, (21 are Italian),
19 Latin Americans, 14 North Americans, 11
Africans, 10 Asians and one from
Oceania
When Paul VI was nearing the end of his life in 1978, an international
committee of lay people prepared a book of dossiers to help the cardinals
better know each other!
See p. 10 of this
1978 paper
- includes a review of the book by Andrew Greeley
How many conclave cardinals have used 1962 Mass?
12
(comment)
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 25
Wisdom's
address: Goodness St.
Trust
when in big trouble - not easy
4
features of genuine Christian
Faith
makes a difference
Please add a comment!
Why
can/can't women be priests?
Questions from a Ewe
Spirituality
& the stages of life:
One size doesn't fit all
Ron Rolheiser OMI (YouTube)
(Talk given in US Feb 23)
Successive
popes have transformed
Vatican into absolute monarchy
Please post a
comment here!
Vatican II Reflection 10
How can we encourage more Christians
to read the Bible?
John W - Blog - Feb 25
Three items re healing prayer
The program for the young
churches, outlined by Vatican II, presents a carbon copy of the mature
church in Europe and America, a church afflicted with serious, if not
mortal, ills and weaknesses. The authors can't imagine a church different
from their own
- Vincent Donovan
Christianity
Rediscovered p.97
Tuesday
February
26
Opus
Dei - Cancer Within?
Martin Mallon
(Tuesday blogger from Ireland)
Will this papal election be free and
open to the promptings of the Holy Spirit, or does Opus Dei have a
disproportionate influence on the outcome?
"Opus
Dei 2005 conclave"
in
Google produces many articles,
some of them "over the top" ,
others worth reading. e.g.
Opus Dei & 2005 conclave
John W - Blog -
Feb 26
Curia bears uncanny resemblance
to eunuchs of Ming Dynasty!
Scholar-officials (read
"bishops"!) lost prominence in
administration as eunuchs became intermediaries between the aloof emperor
and his officials; any senior official who wanted to discuss state matters
had to persuade powerful eunuchs with a bribe simply to have his demands
or message relayed to the emperor.
Congo:
historic peace accord
Let's keep Congo in prayers!
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 26
Old
age doesn't mean wisdom
Is
my nation wise?
Healings
should be frequent
Again:
H e a l i n g !
Please add a comment!
See comments
Feb 24
Magisterium
& theologians
10 laments
Vatican II
Reflection 11
Do I have a burning love
for the Bible?
I
believe (prayer) is the necessary dimension Christianity adds to pagan
prayer, or to Hindu and Buddhist prayer.
It opens up an already beautifully prayerful people, opens them up to God,
to humankind, and to creation. Paganism is a closed and fatalistic system.
What we are asking them to believe, in their prayers, is not that the laws
of the universe are being suspended, but that creation is open-ended and
continuing
- Vincent Donovan,
p. 102
Christianity
Rediscovered
Wednesday February
20
Do
not be afraid
Chris McDonnell
(UK Wed blogger)
But maybe the
cardinals should remember the words of Yogi Berra when he spoke about baseball managers,
"If you do what you have always done, you are going to get what you
have always got."
Heard
on grapevine:
All cardinals
in Rome Feb 27
for a farewell Mass?
Pope
fires parting shot
The next pope may bring with him an invigorating connection to the
Southern Hemisphere, a media magnetism or better leadership skills than
the shy and cerebral Benedict. But whoever he may be, the 266th pope will
inherit a gerontocracy obsessed with turf and Italian politics,
uninterested in basic management practices and hostile to reforms.
Having
more or being more?
Sr Clare Condon SGS
(who is giving up TV for Lent!)
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 20
Who
cares what others say?
Mind-blowing
love
An
example for conclave!
No.
1, No. 1, No. 1 !
Please add
a comment!
See
6
comments Feb
18
Conclave
shouldn't start early!
Dr Paul Collins (Catholica)
Reflections
on our journeys into
the mystery of human love
(Gary Everett,
CathBlog)
Secrets
of the Rich
George Monbiot
Tobacco company tactic:
stay hidden and use others
Vatican II
Reflection 05
Bible + Tradition = Message
(please add a comment!)
John W - Blog - Feb 20
How to get best possible pope!
Thursday
February
21
DV
this website will have it's own blogger in Rome
next week What a time to start blogging from Rome!
Ecumenism
since Vatican II:
Mandate vs Discouragement
Fr Harry Winter OMI
(Blogger from USA)
There is a greater emphasis today on spiritual ecumenism, ecumenism on our
knees. When the unity of
Christians reaches the point where we can concelebrate the Lord’s Supper
together, it will be because the Holy Spirit has taught us when to kneel
and when to run. It would seem
there is much more kneeling involved than running.
Vatican II Reflection 06
"Your eyes are doves"
says the Song of
Songs.
That doesn't mean feathers under the eyebrows
Every Thursday, Daniel
Daring's reflection on the Sunday readings,
to help us prepare for Sunday:
This week - Lent 2(C):
T R A N S F I G U R AT
ION
Transfiguration should
give us sure hope, to trust that
sufferings do not have the last word.
A
responsible response
to the climate change threat
I believe Jesus
would be leading the way to save Mother Earth if his ministry was in
21st Century
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 21
Augustine's
searching words
"By
the Rivers of Babylon"
Powerful
wind at conclave?!
"One
Day at a Time"
Please add a comment!
See Feb
19 comments
John
W - Blog - Feb 21
Best bet for help!
Friday
February
22
The
next pope - what to consider "Bahkita"
(Friday Africa blogger)
What we should be praying for is for a leader who will unite the Church
and give the Church direction in accordance with the Lord’s word. What is important is that the dignity and the glory of the
Church be restored through good leadership
Benedict
has left the Church
at a fork in the road
David Timbs (CathBlog)
It is not hyperbole to suggest that it is
time for choice between a future of hopefulness or despondency. The
difference between the two is great
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 22
Belly
like a sack of wheat!
Every
day Thanksgiving Day
Cardinals
to see visions?
P
r a c t i c e !
Please add a comment!
See Feb
20 seven
comments
A
powerful DVD about Sophie Scholl
who died on this day in 1943
Australia abuse crisis:
Open
letter to lay Catholics
Stifling
or releasing the Spirit?
Use internet to choose pope!
Social
aspect of human work
Joseph Girzone
Fridays of Lent:
Stations
The Iona Passion Play Stations
Vatican
II Reflection 07
Most Christians have never read it?
John W - Blog - Feb 22
Refugees in Hong Kong
Saturday February 23
Interpreting
Vatican II Today:
The Question of Continuity
Bishop Peter Elliott (Melbourne)
Imposing
a political spectrum on the
Church
of
Jesus Christ
is
wrong. This mistaken approach has reduced the interpretation and
application of the Council to secular political positions
(Bp Peter and I were ordained together 40 years ago
this week, about which we have been in happy contact. I invited him to
post something on this website and he has kindly recommended above Kairos
article, already on internet - jw)
Tablet
Papal Audit: we need a pope willing to live in the world we live in
Tablet
Letters Extra:
See post by Margaret Callinan
A
Retirement
Judith Lynch
Maybe
Pope Benedict’s resignation will be the catalyst for a few other
traditions to bite the dust
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today Feb 23
YouTube:
"Like a Seal on Your Heart"
"Can't Buy Me Love"!
Mountain
view of future
Poured
out Spirit
Jesus
the law-breaker
Please add a comment!
See Feb
21 comments
UK
bishops want next pope to reform Church governance
Vatican II Reflection
08
What's another name for
The New Testament?
John W - Blog - Feb 23
Will Holy Spirit
have a vote at conclave? c.f. 2005...
Many thanks for checking
this website each day
Calendar
February
28, 2013:
Pope Benedict to resign
May 12
World
Communications Day
Come Holy Spirit !
Please encourage more people to
see 1-10 re Bishop Bill Morris:
1:
Judge's conclusions
2: Canon lawyer's report
3: Radio interview with judge
4: "The Age" file of letters
5:
Summary re Rome
6:
Frank Brennan's update
7: ABC radio Fr Frank Brennan
8. Update from Frank Brennan
9. Vatileaks & Bp Bill Morris
10: Tablet letter - Frank Brennan
After reading
1-10,
check the "Pravda" report of CNA
Google "Morris"
at top of this page
for many articles re Bishop BM
Bp
Pat Power
Bp Geoff Robinson
Bruce
Duncan
Catalyst for Renewal
Catholics for Ministry
Catholics for Renewal
Frank Brennan
Peter Johnstone
The Swag
Bloggers' archives - current
bloggers without ( )
Bakhita
(Hazel
C) Daniel Daring
Inigo Joachim (Brian Lewis)
(Judith Lynch)
Martin Mallon
Chris McDonnell
(Bill
Mulcahy)
(Des
O'Donnell)
(David
Timbs) (Peter
Wilkinson)
Harry Winter John
Wotherspoon
16 Documents of V2
We Are Church
STANDUP4VATICAN2
VII -
Voice of the Church
Catholic Priests Ireland
PrayTell
Donald
Cozzens
Misguided Missal
Too Western/European
Fr Hans Küng:
Letter to bishops
Revolution
to stop authoritarianism
Fr Joseph Ratzinger:
Writings
on Vat II Robert
Mickens: Vatican
Implosion
Nicholas Lash:
Vatican II: Of
Happy Memory - and Hope?
Robert McNally:
Crisis
& Criticism in the Church
Ron Schmit:
1962
Mass a condemnation of Vat II
The
new translation of the Mass
A ghastly process and a ghastly result
Excellent
articles on Mission
by Fr Hugh McMahon SSC
Priests
say 9 Masses a day - need to ordain married men
The
evil of compulsory celibacy
The
link between compulsory celibacy and sexual abuse
Why
are women not being ordained to priesthood?
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Taking a stand
Next pope: load of rubbish
Navigation Aids
Standing
up to bullies
Bible plan
2012 Near
Death Experiences
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